Shellac is the earliest alcohol base "paint" that I am aware of and what we refer to as "Acrylic" is definitely not a shellac. Use a simple shopmade jig to create cabinets that stand the test of time. And it is best to spray a dry coat before a wet one, or even shellac can crater over heavy silicone. (as if you were doing a camouflage scheme?). This is a rule which I have obeyed for years, and it has never let me down. The inorganic pigments are, as PeteJ says, natural minerals. And you can also pre-shade with water-based acrylics if using them for your base colors. If the solvent doesn't have time to attack the layer beneath, then no issue. That’s when I clean the surface of my paintings, and then wait at least 24 hours for the painting… Shellac didn't adhere to the acrylic paint well. Now a bit about acrylic as used in paint. Doing this however, precludes using it this way over enamels. Ron's advice is good. Make Fine Woodworking a part of your holiday. I understand that you can layer (but not mix together) paints of different bases but they have to be layered in a specific order. Lacquer can cause the paint to bubble or crack due to the very hot solvent that is a part of lacquer. Always good to get better information. I would also add that a clear waterborne acrylic should work just fine. It isn't unusual to clear-coat an acrylic paint finish on a metal surface, such as on an automobile, with CAB-acrylic or acrylic lacquer. By Wade Shaddy Varnish can be used to protect, preserve, and enhance paint. I am about to make and paint a very large schrank (German style cabinet which serves as a closet). Having said that here comes the caveat. To do it yourself, go to the craft store and get one little bottle of their varnish. One is a severe yellowing, which is not wanted. Each coat provides a hard shell over the body of the car, which reduces the risk of cracking or peeling. first. Lacquer Lasts a Long Time. Having said that, however, there do appear to be some modern "acrylics" that are robust enough to stand up to the application of enamels over them. (Don't let marine silicone spray get on interior brightwork around the engine box. It does require a few steps to ensure that the paint adheres to the surface. I've got to wonder about that advise, particularly that which said that shellac didn't adhere well to the acrylic. All paints shrink some as they cure. Originally it was done in oil paints, but now most folks who do this use the acrylic paints that are sold in craft stores. The good news is that you can apply several different types of finishes over top of the acrylic paint to make it more durable and add a sheen. I have read that two problems occur. Guess you know that the decorations all meant something. Not sure if you meant that Steve. Enter now for your chance to win more than $2,000 worth of woodworking equipment from Woodpeckers. Click for full details. First determine if the paint has been clear coated in any way already. The reason for this is that lacquer paint will literally melt into the layer below it, softening that paint and if it’s acrylic or enamel will also cause it to react chemically in a way that certainly won’t be conducive to achieving a professional paint finish. This word is very much misused to describe a type of paint but it has become a part of the general lexicon and as such we are kind of stuck with it. I used the alcohol to clean and moisten the paint brushes and it did a number on the paint! Generally, there are many types of acrylic paints and many different types of lacquers, but you should not lacquer over acrylic paint or any other type of paint. Now I just use shellac. Another benefit to using acrylic lacquer paint on your vehicle is that it lasts a long time. Then you should be good to go. These books give STRONG warnings against using the types of varnish or lacquer that are sold in Home Depot and woodworking stores (eg Minwax polyurathane). It still makes me nuts that we refer to water/alcohol based paint at "Acrylic" although I don't know what other word we would use for it. You can use Tamiya primer for just about anything without fear. By adding a glossy coat on top of the dry painting, you can really make those colors shine again, and it helps to brighten them up – like a wet-look again. There are other types of clearcoat and not all of them are compatible with being coated with lacquer. MigMan, NEVER enamel over acrylic and NEVER lacquer over anything. There are water-based "acrylics" (which are technically enamels), and there are "acrylic lacquers." I don’t know anything about them, except that they are not polyurathane. Shellac is the standard barrier coat between silicone contaminated surfaces and final top coats. The rattlecan finish was easy and cheap, but I would like something tuff. >> Shellac adheres to pretty much anything except silicone. So, if I understand this right, acrylic is a binder that can be used in all three types of paint. DEFT lacquer is great for a moisture barrier, some of my arrows have been buried in wet grass (and extremely damp dirt) overnight and they didn't even warp (it was heck on the fletching, though ). Use steam to create strong, curved parts with continuous grain. Use some of your acrylic paint and cover some boards as though they were pieces of your artwork. Because dilute alcohol will not generally dissolve lacquers or enamels it can be used over them. Alcohol based over all. Yes, it is the standard barrier coat, as I recommended in another recent thread, but the first step of using that method is to remove all the silicone that is possible with thinner, etc. There are certainly reports in the conservation literature of shellac coating layers over layers of almost solid wax. Originals (at least those made in this country) were painted with red lead, white lead, lampblack, prussian blue, etc. Painting over varnish is a great way to modernize and revive old furniture. Thanks for the clarification. Knowledgeable explanation Pete. Braille scale British armor, classic kits, just getting in to ships. They do a better job of dissolving the binders and pigments, but the more of these solvents the more expensive they become. John D. Generally the only thing you can shoot over lacquer is more lacquer. Acrylic paints can dry rather matte and dull and often look a bit disappointing when compared to how they shine when they are wet. They needn't do Baurnmalerei, plenty of artists do durable work in acrylic on wood. He had applied shellac over a stain left by the peanut oil when a child wiped his sandwich on a surface about to be finished. Shellac adheres to pretty much anything except silicone. (though originally the chests were very bright and bold) Easier to "age" also. This paint is easiest for those with little to no experience painting a car, as it is inexpensive and is easy to apply. You'll need sandpaper or deglosser, primer, and paint. I do an old style of German decorative painting called Bauernmalerei. The organic pigments are usually man made chemicals or molecules that were originally extracted from crude oil or coal tar. These are the basic "glues" that make paint stick. Or maybe there is no just right, and you'll ruin the whole thing. I'm not a chemists, but this is what I've always heard. I certainly don’t want to build and paint a giant schrank, only to have the clear finish ruin the decorative painting. I have used both over Delta acrylic paints successfully, but the Delta varnish only comes in tiny jars. Have made seven or eight of this style of chest. Most of the time, I have sprayed clear gloss lacquer over the shells when doing a stain or even an ink screen print design. Lay on a thick coat and you have problems. Then go to the HD and buy something that seems comparable. When you get two paints that shrink at different rates then you get the wrinkling. And enamels need not be restricted to pre-shading; you can apply enamels over enamels without any problems. I do not want to buy a hundred small bottles of “craft varnish” to put over the painting. Can I put a clear top coat of lacquer or shellac over acrylic paint. They are long spaghetti-like molecules that glue the paint pigments to the surface that you are painting. I would rather not use shellac as the final coat, but rather something more durable. With the proper preparation, you can make an old piece look new again. Depending on the mix and the lacquer, enamals it can be used over lacquer. Airliners (Braniff), civil aircraft, real space, sci-fi (Star Trek), Pre WW2 Naval Ships, Merchant Ships, Sailing Ships, WW1 armor and planes. I'm sorta new to this paint business, but I'm willing to try any suggestions ya'll might have. Laid down in light coats so the solvents will evaporate quickly, they can all be used with each other. Yes, it is okay to paint over your surface that has a lacquer finish. UNLIMITED membership - Get access to it all. July 13, 2016 in General Modeling. Make sure you apply every coat of acrylic over a dry surface and laquer over a dry acrylic. I seem to recall Earl Schibe adding "acrylic" to auto paint for and extra fee. Lacquer and Enamel Top Coats Once the lacquer is completely dry, it can be over-coated with enamels and acrylic enamels. My goal is for my work to outlast me. Also some acrylics can be thinned with lacquer thinner. Just does'nt look right. Examples are: Phthalo Blue, Phthalo Green, Napthol Red. I would appreciate any practical advice about what to do. If you can still smell paint on your model, the paint still isn't dry/cured. Examples are Titanium White, Yellow Ochre Ultra Marine Blue. (I've also done a lot of both oil and acrylic paintings on wood and canvas and always finish with a varnish of some kind because they will have matte spots on them). Depending on the mix and the lacquer, enamals it can be used over lacquer. It is only important, that the Enamel Paint is applied in thin and even layers in order to create a strong and even bond with the underlying Lacquer layer. After doing a painting, the current books on Bauernmalerei recommend using only varnishes that are sold in craft stores. Acrylic is a synthetic pigment, not a natural mineral pigment such as titanium(white) or ocher(red) which occur naturally. Edited 5/9/2006 12:29 pm ET by HowardAcheson, Edited 5/9/2006 12:30 pm ET by HowardAcheson, Well, sort of. Expect my joinery to get simpler as time goes by. I've never tried it on peanut butter so don't put a lot of stock in that. Also, if you were to paint the layers listed above, would it be dangerous to maybe add a layer of enamel based paint on top of the acrylic base? I put "acrylics" in quote because "acrylic" means different things to different people. The pigments that PeteJ mention come in two categorizes: Inorganic and Organic. Thanks. I used a Minwax Polycrylic on a white acrylic painted surface a couple of years ago. Other glycols that you know are automotive antifreeze (ethylene glycol). When you have a cured layer and you spray a new layer down, if the old layer absorbs the new thinner it will start to expand and as the two shrink back at different rates, then you get wrinkles. I tried sealcoating some arrows outdoors, and couldn't tell how much lacquer was on the arrows -- and ended up with a fuzzy/blurred/runny acrylic paint crest job on 11 out of 12 arrows. I've found regular latex gives a much more natural result. Most professionals agree that water-based varnish is the best product to use over paint. Smooth finish. Our biweekly podcast allows editors, authors, and special guests to answer your woodworking questions and connect with the online woodworking community. You should contact the manufacturer of your acrylic paints. Although Delta does not manufacture the JW brand, the lady was nice enough to give me ####phone number where I can purchase the larger containers of JW varnish. When you spray lacquer over a solvent-based acrylic finish, they combine to form a hybrid film, even if the acrylic is pigmented to form a paint. A wet application can cause many paints and finishes to wrinkle or blister, even an old coat of lacquer itself. The general rule is: "Acrylic" (i.e., water-based) over enamel (oil-based) over lacquer (lacquer-based). Not sure about the interaction of the other two. Thank you. They will likely be able to give you good information about finishes compatible with them. Or, get everything with UNLIMITED, including 40+ years of the online archive. We have created these special content collections organized to give you a deep dive into a range of topics that matter. This is when you get the wrinkling and the paint bubbles up. It is made worse because if they shrink at different rates, they also expand at different rates. See Southern Furniture 1680-1830 the Colonial Williamsburg Collection, by Ronald Hurst, pp334-343, an unbelievable wealth of information for your shrank. Waterbased varnishes such as those from Minwax did adhere but discolored the light colors of paint. The solvent that causes problems is lacquer thinner, which is included in nitrocellulose lacquer, CAB-acrylic lacquer and catalyzed lacquer. You also get a nice high gloss on the finish. Simple explanation is this. Behind the front's flowing grain lie simple and smart building strategies. I’m trying to be more careful since the gloss coat I used(Mr.Hobby Color Acrylic Clear Gloss) ruined the camo on my current model. Ground up dirt if you will. With all the modern advances in coatings -- polyurethane, shellac, urethane, or varnish -- some confusion about formula is to be expected. Contacting the manufacturer of the paints is going to be best, or seek out fellow artists for their ideas. I don't know if the above statement is correct and that is what I am asking you: Is it correct? That is what gives acrylics that slightly "sweet" smell. DAMHIKT). After spraying the lacquer, I sanded through 2000 grit and buffed using 3M Finesse It II. Well done. Tamiya recommends this when you want a "harder" finish. I do know that whatever primer you use, make sure it's complete set, not just dry, before you over coat it because if you don't, you may get crazing as different base paints can set at different rates and one will pull the other apart. You can paint Enamel over Lacquer without any issues. This time, I'm doing a pretty detailed paint job over the shells and would like to put a protective clear coat over it. I am about to make and paint a very large schrank (German style cabinet which serves as a closet). There are several things to consider when lacquering over painted wood. By Plus tips, advice, and special offers from Fine Woodworking. I took your advice and called the company that makes Delta Ceramcoat. If you are using another brand of paint , please test before applying Glosscote or Dullcote to be sure there is no reaction. Probably weak training of customer service reps. What do you expect at $7 an hour. Just did'nt look right though. Become an UNLIMITED member and get it all: searchable online archive of every issue, how-to videos, Complete Illustrated Guide to Woodworking digital series, print magazine, e-newsletter, and more. UNLIMITED Membership is like taking a master class in woodworking for less than $10 a month. You might need to spray a coat of shellac over the paint and then apply a coat of waterborne varnish which will not yellow. If you paint … Shellac can be used over the top of your acrylic paint if you are careful to apply it properly. (Acrylic paint dries pretty quickly, but although it may feel dry to the touch, the paint will still be adjusting its inter-molecular structure for several days. High end thinners are also more prone to attacking plastic. Have no idea what the craft varnishes are unless they are waterborne. Home Depot is mostly acetone. The person I talked to had faced the same situation and tried a number of different things. Acrylic paint cures in about three days. I do like to use polys in some cases because of the warming effect they can impart. I mentioned compatibility. The JW varnish comes in pints, quarts and gallons, so I am all set. Yes, the lacquer could easily destroy the underlying acrylic. Shellac, in a light colored form, super blonde, will have little impact on color, and will not darken significantly over time. When you spray lacquer over a solvent-based acrylic finish, they combine to form a hybrid film, even if the acrylic is pigmented to form a paint. Painting over an unprepared lacquered surface would be much of a waste of time because the paint will not find a … All homemade, of course. Lacquer's solvents are based primarily on acetone and MEK with some other solvents thrown in. This occurs as a result of paint shrinkage as it cures. This is why there is a significant difference in the price and action of auto paint shop and Home Depot lacquer thinner. But it does adhere well. Now, what can be used over what? The pigment, metallic, and UV substances were just in suspension and sometimes solution in the original paint, with no chemical bonds between the substances in the original mixture that you see in enamels. The binder is the solid glue and the solvent dissolves it to make it liquid. For instance: Start with a lacquer based primer; then preshade with an enamel paint; then you could lay down an acrylic base color. Acrylic paint is probably the most widely used paint for crafts and art projects. These solvents are the "hottest" and will generally dissolve almost anything. The polyurethanes will yellow as will non-poly varnishes. Spraying gives you a little less control over where the paint ends up, as opposed to cutting in with a paintbrush. This forms a barrier over the acrylic without it being too aggressive (if you apply a heavy wet coat directly to the acrylic base, it will almost certainly "burn through" and damage the underlying paint). Layering Lacquer, Enamel, and Acrylic Paints. Lacquer can be over-coated with other lacquer, paints, or enamels and acrylics. Then finish the boards with the various products. In short, only put a lacquer top coat over a lacquer … There is no formula to tell you when this will or will not happen so you can only do a test shot to see. Make sure you paint fat over lean as a golden rule several thin coats first . Problem solved, thanks to your suggestion. Acrylic lacquer paint was used in the 1920's through to the 60's, though in some places it is illegal. Acrylic clear coat is just acrylic binder and solvent; no pigments. I'm a relatively new member and this is my first post on this forum!! The other is that these products will not adhere to the acrylic paints. Covered the first chest with poly and it worked fine. I have used Testor's Dullcote and Glosscote, both rattle can and brush, over enamels and haven't had any problems. What is the truth about using modern varnishes or lacquers or even shellac over acrylic craft paints??? Naphtha over lacquer but not alcohol and lacquer on the bottom. The problem with this method is, you won't necessarily discover a problem that doesn't show up for, say, several years (though you can stress the boards by putting them in direct sunlight for several days). As for the 91% alcohol, I found that out the hard way on enamel paint when I was trying to do some filtering and washes. If you are talking about spraying lacquer over the polyurethane and the poly is well aged, you might be able to get away with it by spraying light well-thinned coats of the lacquer. I saw that the hard way once. Acrylic paints are commonly referred to as "water"based but the reality is that the primary solvent is alcohol. I can't tell you which ones, because I shy away from "acrylics.". The problem is the lacquer thinner in the lacquer. In fact, any paint or finish that contains lacquer thinner or is thinned with lacquer thinner or with any of the active solvents in lacquer thinner (for example, acetone) has the possibility of attacking an existing coating and causing a problem. No adhesion or yellowing. I would be sure and let it cure. I'm not a chemist, but I think the binder in the existing acrylic lacquer finish is liberated by the solvents in the lacquer top coat. Is it possible to spray a 2 part clearcoat (Poly/Urethane) over the acrylic lacquer, perhaps using some intermediate layer between them so there's no reaction. The "other" solvents and proportions are what differentiate various Lacquer thinners. I usually allow any paint I apply to dry/cure for a week before applying more paint on top. While painting Lacquer over Enamel Paint can be quite complicated painting Enamel over Lacquer is surprisingly easy. The safest thing to do is to use dewaxed shellac over the poly and then you can go to … As a retired Chemical Engineer, I felt compelled to add some clarification to PeteJ's good explanation. I will use the JW brand. Acrylic correctly describes the pigments used, not the thinners. The paint becomes a floating layer of pigment and it’s possible to polish the finish with fine sandpaper and a rag to get a mirror finish. That is what gives acrylics that slightly "sweet" smell. Watch out for the acrylic paint for this project. And for good reason, it is easy to use, you can get acrylic paint pretty much everywhere, most acrylic paint is non-toxic, and it is quite cheap too. That is the excretions of the Lac bug, dried and dissolved in ethanol. It isn't unusual to clear-coat an acrylic paint finish on a metal surface, such as on an automobile, with CAB-acrylic or acrylic lacquer. © 2021 The Taunton Press, Inc. All rights reserved. The best automotive lacquer thinners have more of the expensive solvents and less acetone in them. Of course there are some waterborne acrylics that have had some amber dye added to provide some grain highlighting. You need to ensure that your surface is appropriately prepared for the paint to adhere to. "You can apply Glosscote/Dullcote over any Testors, Model Master or Aztek acrylic, enamel or lacquer as they are specially formulated to go over them with no problems. Mostly though, I've seen this in waterborne floor finishes. You might try Gretchen's idea of a shellac first coat, too. The key difference is the binders and solvents. The "sweet" smell of the acrylics is more likely to be from "glycols" that are added to the paint to get the paint to flow smoothly. This is the acrylic craft paint like you can buy at Wally World. As a friend said one time, "Shellac will stick to anything, including peanut butter". Acrylic paints are commonly referred to as "water"based but the reality is that the primary solvent is alcohol. Mel. The latter are lacquer-based but their pigments are acrylic polymers. That is the nature of the beast. All paints are made of 3 basic components. Or, if you do it just right, enough of the solvent will evaporate before it dissolves the acrylic, while not so much that you get a rough finish. If you are referring to spraying lacquer through a paint gun then yes, but you can only use lacquer thinner. Very informative explanation, but I was just stating that Testor's Dullcote and Glosscote can be used over (I should have said Testor's) enamels and acrylics even though it is lacquer based. Because you're thinning the poly to wipe on you shouldn't have too much concern about runs. Before the advent of acrylics, natural pigment came mostly from the ground and were dug up and crushed for use in paint. Ideas on how to frame acrylic sheet (for transparent room barrier), HELP! Once it's all off clean the bumper real well, scuff it with a maroon scotch pad and shoot adhesion promoter and a sealer over it. Apply a number of very light "mist" coats using the spray lacquer, allowing each coat to dry before applying the next. Acrylic Plexiglass and Soft Maple - Bent Lamination Glue Up, Complete Illustrated Guide to Woodworking USB, Editor's letter: Finding sanctuary in the shop, From the Editor: Publishing during a pandemic, Save 56% off the magazine newsstand price. That cheap primer should come off with lacquer thinner. This is a slightly less aggressive than the solvents in lacquer thinner. She recommended using an "acrylic based" varnish such as that made by Delta or another company, named "JW". Clark Kellogg shows you how to make your own metal hardware using many of the tools you already own, plus a handful of others. I do not want to buy a hundred small bottles of “craft varnish” to put over the painting. I don't know if you can use it over other manufacture's paints. Some of these were first discovered by German Chemists in the late 1800's. There are risks to spraying any type of solvent lacquer over any existing, and older, paint or finish. Because dilute alcohol will not generally dissolve lacquers or enamels it can be used over them. Solids or pigments, binders and solvents or thinners. But most newcomers to the world of arts and crafts don´t know how … What Materials Can You Use Acrylic Paint on – A Full List Read More » The older the paint layer is, the more damage the lacquer will do, and the less effective it will be at finishing the wood. Thank you very much. I have read that two problems occur. 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